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Tim, thanks for entering in. I'll have to bring this up on Wednesday if I can make it. I have a few quick comments for you.
I believe the means of worship is important as well and we should be careful to not only worship with a correct heart attitude, but in a correct manner as well.
Does the Bible give a "manner," or does it give principles which must be applied? My understanding is that the Bible defines what good 'culture' is, love, joy, peace, etc.
Another illustration would be a work of art.
This illustration breaks down very quickly for this reason. Music is far less specific than words are. For instance a cave man might make a grunt and it could mean I'm hungry, I love the food, you woke me up, etc. A grunt then becomes a medium, but one which can be used to communicate all sorts of things because of it's lack of specificity.
On another level, Authorial intention is very important in determining what God was saying to us through scripture, but less important in terms of using a love poem to communicate to my wife. It's not morally wrong to use Shakespeare's words even if he was talking about a different type of love to a different woman.
In a certain sense the medium really impacts the message. Music without words can communicate some, but it is a VERY blurry medium. People may work out a soothing melody on the keyboard and mean nothing other than it made them feel good. I don't think authorial intention is that big of an idea with regard to art which is why I also struggle with abstract art in general, why do it? I'm driven by ideas not sentiments.
As to the last comment on the Deuteronomy 6 passage, it only really relates in the sense that I'm saying love is important to Christian life because it is VERY closely related to faith (yet distinct). I really just included this because I was reading through Deuteronomy and I came across Paul's quotation from Romans 10 and was absolutely befuddled as to how he was being faithful to Moses with this quotation. My only conclusion (regardless of how you take the quote) is that Paul says "Moses spoke of a righteousness by faith". So I went through Deuteronomy to look for it. And I think it was laced all the way through Deuteronomy but especially centered in Deuteronomy 6. This is a blog post and I should probably have taken more time to realize that the Deuteronomy discussion is one for its own time, but I thought it was an interesting idea and one that has been reappearing all over for me that faith and love are related (like when Dr. Newman said it in class the other day).
Posted by Matthew LaPine to εις επαινον δοξης αυτου at 2:30 PM
Tim, thanks for entering in. I'll have to bring this up on Wednesday if I can make it. I have a few quick comments for you.
I believe the means of worship is important as well and we should be careful to not only worship with a correct heart attitude, but in a correct manner as well.
Does the Bible give a "manner," or does it give principles which must be applied? My understanding is that the Bible defines what good 'culture' is, love, joy, peace, etc.
Another illustration would be a work of art.
This illustration breaks down very quickly for this reason. Music is far less specific than words are. For instance a cave man might make a grunt and it could mean I'm hungry, I love the food, you woke me up, etc. A grunt then becomes a medium, but one which can be used to communicate all sorts of things because of it's lack of specificity.
On another level, Authorial intention is very important in determining what God was saying to us through scripture, but less important in terms of using a love poem to communicate to my wife. It's not morally wrong to use Shakespeare's words even if he was talking about a different type of love to a different woman.
In a certain sense the medium really impacts the message. Music without words can communicate some, but it is a VERY blurry medium. People may work out a soothing melody on the keyboard and mean nothing other than it made them feel good. I don't think authorial intention is that big of an idea with regard to art which is why I also struggle with abstract art in general, why do it? I'm driven by ideas not sentiments.
As to the last comment on the Deuteronomy 6 passage, it only really relates in the sense that I'm saying love is important to Christian life because it is VERY closely related to faith (yet distinct). I really just included this because I was reading through Deuteronomy and I came across Paul's quotation from Romans 10 and was absolutely befuddled as to how he was being faithful to Moses with this quotation. My only conclusion (regardless of how you take the quote) is that Paul says "Moses spoke of a righteousness by faith". So I went through Deuteronomy to look for it. And I think it was laced all the way through Deuteronomy but especially centered in Deuteronomy 6. This is a blog post and I should probably have taken more time to realize that the Deuteronomy discussion is one for its own time, but I thought it was an interesting idea and one that has been reappearing all over for me that faith and love are related (like when Dr. Newman said it in class the other day).
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